General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
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General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
Serotonin (5-HT) is a natural occurring chemical in the body, which is thought to play a key role in migraine.
Serotonin (5HT) Agonists block 5-HT2 receptors to stop the effects of 5-HT.
Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril) are the usual ones prescribed. Pizotifen also has anti-histamine properties and is related to the Tricyclic antidepressants.
Methysergide is a semi synthetic ergot alkaloid. It is administered under hospital supervision because of the side effects (retroperitoneal fibrosis and fibrosis of heart values and pleura). It must be discontinued for at least one month in six because of the potential side effects.
Have you tried any of these? How did you find them?
Serotonin (5HT) Agonists block 5-HT2 receptors to stop the effects of 5-HT.
Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril) are the usual ones prescribed. Pizotifen also has anti-histamine properties and is related to the Tricyclic antidepressants.
Methysergide is a semi synthetic ergot alkaloid. It is administered under hospital supervision because of the side effects (retroperitoneal fibrosis and fibrosis of heart values and pleura). It must be discontinued for at least one month in six because of the potential side effects.
Have you tried any of these? How did you find them?
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Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
Pizotifen had no benefit for me and I think this turned me into a zombie too, I can't remember any other side-effects as this was the first preventative tried at the age of 14.
Methysergide again had no benefit for me but I developed extreme leg pains as the dose was being increased to the extent I could barely walk, at the time this was not listed as a side-effect and so my GP had to contact the pharmaceutical company and had to fill in loads of forms. When the dose was reduced the side-effect would ware off for a period of time before returning and so the dose had to be reduced again. This continued until there was not point in taking it.
Methysergide again had no benefit for me but I developed extreme leg pains as the dose was being increased to the extent I could barely walk, at the time this was not listed as a side-effect and so my GP had to contact the pharmaceutical company and had to fill in loads of forms. When the dose was reduced the side-effect would ware off for a period of time before returning and so the dose had to be reduced again. This continued until there was not point in taking it.
Kala- Posts : 82
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Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
I had Sanomigrain at the age of 16. All that happened was a whole load of weight gain. That's the only side effect I really got from it though. I certainly didn't get any benefits.
Sarah- Posts : 588
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Location : Essex, UK
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
Oh of course the weight gain that is when it would have started at the age of 14!!
Kala- Posts : 82
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Age : 48
Location : Nottinghamshire
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
I have been on pizotifen a couple of times for around 6 months and the first time was quite effective but less so the 2nd time and I gained a lot of weight too
chaos8569- Posts : 12
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Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
Pizotifen does work for me in that it stops 99.9% of the migraines I get - hemaplegic migraines, the kind without a headache - but it does state quite clearly on the instruction leaflet in the packet that a side effect is 'increased appetite leading to weight gain'. Even eating sensibly I can put on almost half a stone in a week, and that's on the bare minimum dose of Pizotifen!
As I have a weight problem greater than my migraine probelm, I've had to wean myself off these tablets, with my GP's knowledge, and just learn to put up with these migraines if I'm to shift some of the surplus lard I'm carrying around with me.
As I have a weight problem greater than my migraine probelm, I've had to wean myself off these tablets, with my GP's knowledge, and just learn to put up with these migraines if I'm to shift some of the surplus lard I'm carrying around with me.
cobden28- Posts : 4
Join date : 2011-07-18
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
cobden - have you ever tried Topamax? Its from the epileptic family of meds - it does come with side effects of course BUT one of them is weight loss
Dieting with migraine is sooo hard
Dieting with migraine is sooo hard
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
I have been on Pizotifen for 16 years 0.5mg and it was 99% effective for me.I recently decided to come off it to see if I was still susceptible to migraine my doctor said as it was a low dose so just stop them well that was 5 weeks ago and ive had the most horrific withdrawals nausea.. headache.. dizzy like motion sickness.. anxiety and I still dont feel right.Has anyone else experienced this
b0dkin- Posts : 1
Join date : 2011-11-16
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
My 14 year old has been on Prizotifen since september. She started on 1.5mg and worked up to 4.5mg. I noticed in the first month it affected her mood in that she was depressed. She was exhausted and it affected her concentration. After a month her mood went back to normal but concentration and tiredness levels still continue to be an issue. In the past two weeks I have reduced her dosage down to 3mg as the tiredness levels and concentration issues were too much for her. In regards to weight gain she has put on weight but because she is slim it is not an issue as yet infact I am quite happy at the moment with this effect as I felt she was too slim. I believe the Prizotifen has helped her somewhat in that the severity and duration of migraine attacks are slightly less severe time will tell if it is going to have any meaningfull long term affect. I did read that you are supposed to come off it gradually bodkin so perhaps that was the issue in regards to yourself and symptoms.
migrainecarer- Posts : 9
Join date : 2011-11-24
Age : 59
Location : Edinburgh
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
More than ten years ago I was on Sandomigran (Pizotifen malate) for a period of nearly 2 years. It's the only medication that has been effective on reducing the number of migraine attacks. Unfortunately it had 2 serious side effects for me
- Weight gain: over that time I went from 65Kg to over 100Kg. My hands got so fat that I could not touch my palms with the tips of the fingers.
- Aggressiveness: It made me feel indestructible, confident and assertive. Unfortunately what I really became was bull headed, stubborn and very aggressive.
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
I was on Pizotifen for a little while - too short to really know whether it was a good preventative medication for me but I became obsessed with food and eating - not just hungry but obsessed, it was horrible. I also became irritable bordering on aggressive and burst into tears at intervals between 15 minutes to an hour. I felt awful.
My GP told me that this was not known side-effects but if I was really sure it was down to the medication I should stop taking it.
My GP told me that this was not known side-effects but if I was really sure it was down to the medication I should stop taking it.
Miyah- Posts : 34
Join date : 2012-02-23
Age : 46
Location : East Sussex - UK
Re: General discussion - Serotonin (5HT) Agonists - Pizotifen (Sanomigran) and Methysergide (Deseril)
Forgot to mention I regained some sanity after a little while. Why are GP's always so reluctant to consider side effects despite them being on the 'common' list.
Miyah- Posts : 34
Join date : 2012-02-23
Age : 46
Location : East Sussex - UK
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