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Post by Tee Mon May 23, 2011 6:53 pm

Hi all

After a week at level 7/9 I thankfully found an Indian Head Massage person at a fair yesterday - she gave me 30mins of reflexology Indian Head massage - all for a £5!! Bliss - OK knocked me out for the night and I was in bed for 7, but woke this morning with a clear head Smile

Anyway, we had a long chat about something called Kinesiology - she had migraines for years and then did this and it worked - I have taken a card and will book to see the lady who does it - but I wondered if anyone else had had this, looked into it or had even heard of it?

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Post by whitzendJane Mon May 23, 2011 7:18 pm

No but the lady that came to do my head massage recommended it too. We talked about it but I can't see how it works. However it's just £30 for a session so I might just take a punt on it out of desperate hope it may help ..as we do.

To be honest they even state on their website (these seems to be health kinesiology and the federation of kinesiology) that they cannot say how it helps due to advertising regulations...hmmmm...so that would suggest that they basically can't prove it works. I am sceptical.

It looks like a cross between Bowen and acupressure. I know head massage helps because it is relaxing so if this is a relaxing treatment that would help too I guess. Let us know how you get on Tracey.

Glad the Head rub helped.

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Post by Sarah Mon May 23, 2011 7:55 pm

It's got to be about the one thing I haven't tried! Very Happy I'd be very interested to hear how you get on.

Great news on the head massage.

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Post by Tee Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:33 pm

I have spent a lot of time with a Kinselogist lady this week and it was quite an eye opener.

She was able to tell me about my health problems and past live events without me saying a word!! :0

When we tested allergies we found I have chemical sensitivity - and a wheat problem - both of which I knew about already Smile

Things I did not know about include cows milk, cheese, soya, rice and corn.

Wheat and chemical are a big no no and I need to cut them out completely - ALL the remaining cleaning products went in the bin last night!

The others we should be able to manage by introducing an enzyme and some minerals.

Interesting, all the vitamin and minerals I was talking where no no's as they were all synthetic. - So if your taking any best check if they are natural ones.

BUT when she tested for lack of minerals - interestingly the two that stood out above them all was Magnesium and Iodine! (which as you all know are the 2 which have been linked to migraine triggers) I also have a lack of Zinc.

She has put me on a massive dose of Magnesium chloride, Zinc and Bromelain which is a pineapple enzymn. All from Higher Nature.

So I will give it a few weeks and see what happens.........
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Post by whitzendJane Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:56 am

Hi Tee

Can you send me the details about all the supplements, where you got them and what dose I should get please..?

Thanks sweetie
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PS what foods are you managing to eat now then..are you finding it OK?

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Post by Tee Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:56 am

They all come from a company called Higher Nature - True Foods - http://www.highernature.co.uk/ they are available in the net but a good health shop should stock them .

I am taking:

Magnesium http://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=253

I started on 4 tables for 2 days, then 3 for 2 days and am now to 2 daily. These can be taken with or without food at any time of day, I stagged mine across the day.

Zinc
http://www.highernature.co.uk/ShowProductFamily.aspx?ProductFamilyID=254
Again I started on 4 tables for 2 days, then 3 for 2 days and now down to 2 per day. I was told to take these at a different time of day to the others as they can interfere with the absorption of the others.

Bromelain
http://www.highernature.co.uk/Products/Bromelain-supplement
I was given this one to help with the milk problem. I take 3 of these a day.

They had some of these on Amazon at a slightly cheaper price Wink

Food wise I am quite happy - I went to a health food store and a local farmers market shop and bought some gluten free stuff - soups, breakfast museil, oat cakes, veg pasta and some macaroons Smile etc But I have just moved to more fruit and veg and although I have to think a bit harder, I am not struggling yet - I just got some tinned soups in for the days when I cannot think Wink

I have just ordered the book you recommended - so I will have a look at that and adapt where I need to Smile

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Post by Sarah Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:12 am

I'm interested in how you get on with the True Food supplements. I've always avoided them, for fear of the yeast (which can most definitely give me migraines sometimes).

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Post by whitzendJane Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:52 pm

Cheers Tee...informative and helpful as ever xxx
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Post by whitzendJane Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:53 pm

gonna hold off on the iodine after just reading the other post...I can gag at the drop of a hat so deffo not for me..LMAO..sorry.
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Post by Tee Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:26 pm

OMG - its the worst stuff I have ever taken and that includes warfin - the rat poison LMAO.

Going to talk to health food lady and see if i can mix it with something or get another version - I cannot see me putting that in my mouth again - I can still feel the burn an hour on!

As for the others I am doing fine on them Smile Jane you might not need the Bromelain - it makes you lose so go careful - I was only given it to sort the milk problem out.


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Post by Katie Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:06 pm

Tee- take this with a huge pinch of salt.
Especially the so called 'testing for allergies'. Allergy is life threatening and if you do have that you need an epipen.

If you truly do have a demonstartable sensitivity to proteins it will show in an NHS blood test in the IgE counts.

If that is there then the NHS can help by prescribing milk sub's and getting you a very good dietician to make sure you do not keel over from malnutrion.
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Post by Tee Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:06 pm

I understand that Katie and my IgE showed a high level, but the source was unknown, it was explained to me (at the hospital) that this can happen with an intolerance and they can not do that at the hospital, they only way to work it out is via an exclusion diet.

Hence why I went to see the Kineslogist to get a short list and why I am having the York test done. However my son is lactose intolerant and has been since he came off breast milk some 10 years ago.

The chemical allergies are allergies as my reaction is not just migraine - I get swelling in the throat, tongue, lips, face - in fact all over - I also get a tight chest and have difficultly breathing we are very close to getting a epipen for those, if I cannot control it - hence the removal of all chemicals in the house.

My tummy and bowels have been loads better since starting the Mag, Zinc and the enymze Smile I also have more energy - So something is working Smile

But I do understand what you are saying.
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Post by Katie Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:59 pm

My father was seen by an NHS allergy specialist and my younger son was placed on an exclusion diet by a consultant at the Regional Childrens Hospital. What you are doing is not the best way to tackle an exclusion diet.

It involves going back to a very boring and very basic diet for 2-4 weeks before gradually introducing one new food every 2-4 weeks. Ben lived on rice, lamb, apricots, carrots and chicken with a prescription milk sub' supervised by an NHS dietician. My dad had to do the same although he was placed on an NHS supervised 'stone age diet'. Bens allergy tests involved being booked into hosital for a day to have food challenge tests done one per month. It involved siting a cannula first and gradual exposure to each allergen. For less severe intolerance this regime is recommended http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Allergies/Pages/Eliminationdiet.aspx

Careful with the York Test- it will tell you which foods you eat the most often. That is not the same as the ones your intolerant too.

Anyone whose allergy causes swelling of the throat should have an epipen so do talk with your GP and push for one.

See if you can also get access to Dietician [not a nutrionist they are nowhere near as qualified or regulated] to check your diet and ensure its balanced. I have seen too many desperate people end up with unintended malnutrion from DIY elimination diets.
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Post by Tee Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:55 pm

Thanks for that - I did this diet years ago under the hospital and it was damn hard work - wheat was the only thing that came up - yet the tummy ache, IBS and migraines have got worse over the years Sad They then suspected that the rice may have been a problem from the start! If I am honest I just do not have the energy to go through this all again...

I have an appointment to see my dietician again in 2 weeks time - at the last appointment she just said I needed to generally eat more! and a bit more dairy.....

I will talk to the GP re the pen - I think it would be best if we had one at home.

I was very wary over the York Test and hummed and arred over it for years - then I read this on Allergy UK

http://forum.allergyuk.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=282

And it was this that finally made me make my mind up. I plan to eliminate what they say and then introduce them again one by one and just see what happens - I will not cut them out for good until my body has proved it.
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